Our Pino (an oldish steel Tour) has both the pannier rack beneath the stoker's seat and the twin stand.
The stand is great. BUT: if our big panniers are fitted, they push the stand down beneath them so that the legs catch on the ground on corners. Or we can tie the stand up, but then the panniers rest on it so that they don't hang vertically, and of course we can't easily use it.
We could avoid the problem by using small panniers, and mounting them as far back as we can. But then the pilot's toes catch on them, and anyway, for camping touring, we need big panniers, and this is the place to put them. So we've gone without the stand.
Everything else on the Pino seems so well thought-out. This is the one major disappointment. Has anyone else encountered the same problem, and what fixes have you come up with?
The stand is great. BUT: if our big panniers are fitted, they push the stand down beneath them so that the legs catch on the ground on corners. Or we can tie the stand up, but then the panniers rest on it so that they don't hang vertically, and of course we can't easily use it.
We could avoid the problem by using small panniers, and mounting them as far back as we can. But then the pilot's toes catch on them, and anyway, for camping touring, we need big panniers, and this is the place to put them. So we've gone without the stand.
Everything else on the Pino seems so well thought-out. This is the one major disappointment. Has anyone else encountered the same problem, and what fixes have you come up with?